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Speaker 1
0:05

Hey
,

domain
,

dave
,

cheapwinefindercom
,

the

last

of

the

podcast

of

2024
.

Last

of

our

holiday

extravaganza

of

sorts
.

It's

a

bubbly
,

it's

a

wine

I

got

at

Target

of

all

places
,

it's

the

Chandon

California

Brut

Rose
.

It

sells

from

between

and

I've

seen

it

as

low

as

$16
,

$15
,

but

not

this

holiday

season
.

Prices

didn't

drop
.

I

think
.

I

picked

it

up

for

$18.99
,

and

I've

seen

it

at

a

size

23,
.

So

it's
,

you

know

it's

in

that

price

range
,

which

isn't

a

bad

price

range

for

a

bubbly

from

a

very

famous

French

champagne

house
.

Speaker 1
0:49

Shandong

California

was

the

first

of

the

French

outposts

in

California
.

That

happened
,

I

think
,

in

1973
,

so

they've

been

doing

it

for

a

long
,

long

time
.

Both

Moet

Chandon

and

Chandon

California

are

owned

by

LVHM

I

think

I

got

the

initials

right

A

luxury

brand

company
.

Who

they

do
?

Louis

Vuitton
,

kohlhager
,

ager
,

auer
.

Who

else
?

They

do

Just

everybody
.

They

do

Hennessy
,

they

do

Auerbeg
.

I

mean

half

the

premium

brands

out

there

they

do
.

I've

got

links

to

that

on

the

website

for

the

review
.

But

this

is

from

a

high-end
,

very

good

brand

and

Moet

Chandon
,

if

you're

going

to

be

drinking

bubbly
,

is

as

good

as

any

of

them
.

Speaker 1
1:48

But

in

California

this

is

a

little

bit

different

Because

most

of

the

other

French

wine

houses

in

California
.

They're

Napa

or

Sonoma
,

it's

just

California

on

the

label
.

They

don't

care
,

they

just

they

don't

care
.

Which

usually

means

because

there's

two

major

ABAs

North

Coast
,

which

is

Sonoma
,

napa
,

mendocino
,

a

couple

of

small

ones

and

then

you

got

Central

Coast
,

monterey
,

santa

Barbara
,

paso

Robles
.

Those

are

the

major

ones
.

And

then

there's

like

Lodi

and

Clarksburg

are

the

independents

kind

of

Lodi

and

Clarksburg

are

the

independents

kind

of
.

So

if

you

have

enough

grapes

from

the

North

Coast

and

you

mix

in

some

Central

Coast
,

well

then

you've

got

to

put

California

on

the

label
.

If

you

have

grapes

from

Sonoma

and

you

have

some

from

Napa
,

well

then

you

can

do

North

Coast

on

the

label
.

So

that

basically

means

they

went

into

the

Central

Coast

to

get

some

grapes
.

Monterey
,

santa

Barbara
,

I'm

not

sure

Some

places
.

Speaker 1
2:46

That

does

Pinot

Noir

and

Chardonnay
,

and

this

is

57%

Chardonnay
,

40%

Pinot

Noir

and

just

a

little

bit

3%

Pinot

Mouinet
,

which

are

the

three

main

grapes

for

Champagne

Mounais
,

which

are

the

three

main

grapes

for

champagne
.

One

thing

that's

interesting

is

there's

not

a

word

of

champagne

on

the

label
,

because

it's

sparkling

wine
.

It

can

only

be

champagne

if

it's

from

Champagne

France
.

This

isn't
,

so

I'm

going

to

take

a

sip
.

Sip
,

it's

good
,

that's

really

good
.

It's

really

light

in

the

palate
.

It

hits

your

palate

and

kind

of

almost

disappears
,

meaning

you

need

to

be

like

really

low
,

low
,

low

sugar

levels

to

do

that
.

But

this

is

one's

just

as

a

very

delicate

and

this

is

this

hits

way

better

than

I

thought

it

would
.

Speaker 1
3:50

If

this

drinks

really

well
,

I

tend

to

like

a

champagne

with

a

lot

of

pinot

noir

in

there
.

It

rounds

it

off
.

The

chardonnay

ones

got

really

crisp

and

I

like

those

too
.

But

if

I

have

my

choice

between

one

or

the

other
,

I

grab

one

with

a

good

deal

of

Pinot

Noir

in

there
.

This

drink's

great

for

under

$20

from

a

French

winemaker
,

because

Moet

Chandon

does

have

their

winemakers
.

I

have

the

winemakers

that

do

all

this

and

they

follow

the

instructions
.

One

thing

that

is

different

here

is

that

in

France

the

minimum

amount

of

triage
,

second

fermentation

that's

where

the

bubbles

are

put

in

there
.

Each

and

every

bottle

they

pour

the

first

fermentation

in

there
,

add

some

yeast
,

add

some

sugar
,

measured

amounts

and

then

in

France

they

come

back

18

months

later

and

pull

out

the

yeast
.

Speaker 1
4:44

In

California

it's

only

12

months
,

so

it's

less
,

and

the

longer

the

second

triage

fermentation
,

the

more

smooth

and

creamy

it

gets
.

But

one

thing

I

was

thinking

about

is

California

might

need

only

12
.

You

know
,

like

Tennessee
,

kentucky
,

bourbon

is

usually

typically

aged

four

to

six

years
,

something

like

that

for

the

regular

bottlings
,

scotch

12
.

I

mean
,

and

even

more
,

it's

because

it's

kind

of

hot

in

Kentucky

and

it's

kind

of

cold

in

Scotland

and

Champagne

Francis

way

colder

in

California
.

I'm

going

to

take

another

sip
,

so

12

months

might

do

the

job

just

as

quick

as

the

18

months

did
,

because

this

is

a

smooth
.

There's

a

little

bit

of

cream

to

it
,

not

super

creamy
,

but

it's

there
.

It

sips

well
.

Speaker 1
5:44

It's

a

really

nice

wine

one
.

I've

had

a

bunch

of

really

nice

bubbly's

this

year
.

Everything

everybody

was

a

little

bit

different
.

Everybody

was

very

nice
.

This

is
,

this

is

a

seamless

package
.

This

is
.

Whoever

made

this

knew

if

they

were

doing
.

So

there

you

go
.

This

is

the

Shandong

California

Brut

Rose
.

It's

a

non
,

non-vintage

wine
.

You

can

get

it

between

$20

and

$15
.

Well
,

if

you

rush

out
,

there's

got

to

be

sales

right

now

and

it's

well

worth

buying

if

you

want

something

for

the

holidays
.

It's

a

nice

package
.

Shandong

yeah
,

it's

California
,

but

at

half

the

price
.

Who

needs

the

French

stuff
?

Right
?

I

mean
,

I

still

like

the

French

stuff
,

but

this

one

hits

pretty

hard

for

the

price
.

So
,

adios
,

keep

it

cheap
,

have

a

happy

new

year
.

I'll

catch

you

on

the

other

side
.

It'll

start

up

all

over

again

in

2025
.

So
,

stay

safe
,

stay

warm

and

keep

it

cheap
,

and

I'll

be

talking

to

you
.

Bye-bye
.

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