What if you discovered the secret behind why New Zealand’s under $25 Pinot Noir from years ago was such an excellent bargain? Join me, Domain Dave, as I uncork the mystery behind this and more from the world of wine. Today, we’re sipping on the Oyster Bay Rose 2022, a rosé that beautifully balances subtlety and a full-bodied flavor. We’ll chat about the importance of grape vine ages, the significance of clones in winemaking, and how the whole process from de-stemming to aging on leaves contributes to this wine’s unique taste.
Get ready to take a virtual trip to the vineyards of New Zealand as I discuss the rise of this region on the global wine scene. Listen in as I compare Pinot Noir from different regions and explain why malolactic fermentation, a common process in winemaking, was not used for this rosé. With flavors of cherries, lemons, apple, guava, and tart stone fruit, this amber-orange rosé is a perfect summer sipper. So pull up a chair, pour yourself a glass, and let’s explore the fascinating world of wine together. Raise a glass to learning something new and remember to keep it cheap, stay cool, and stay safe. Cheers!
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Speaker 1
0:04
Welcome again , domain Dave , chief of Winefightercom , and we have another podcast for one to talk about , one that we wrote up on the Chief of Winefightercom website . That's what we always do , and today we have one from New Zealand . It's the Oyster Bay Rose 2022 . It's a rose of Pinot Noir . The grapes came from the Warroo Valley in Maribor , which is in the South Island . There's several different valleys where the grapes are grown And that's where Oyster Bay gets their grapes Back .
Speaker 1
0:47
When New Zealand really came on strong in the wine scene , it wasn't just Sauvignon Blanc , it was Sauvignon Blanc and Pinot Noir . And the Pinot Noir might have been even more exciting than the Sauvignon Blanc , because to get a good , excellent Sauvignon Blanc isn't hard . I mean they're all over the place . I mean France has seven different regions that do it well And California has gotten better at it . And then you get to South America has been doing fine . I even had like Italy do Sauvignon Blanc and maybe even Spain . I mean they're doing really well , but under 25 Pinot Noir back in the , you know , about 10 years ago or more , maybe 12 , 13 years ago , i'm not even sure It's a while back There , new Zealand's under $25 Pinot Noir And a lot of times $15 , $16 , $17 was just an excellent bargain . You weren't getting that out of California , you weren't getting that out of France . I mean , then it kind of stopped , i don't know why . I don't think they wanted to be your value price Pinot Noir exporter . So I think nowadays most of those wines are 25 and up , though you can still find a few , but they really don't do $10 Pinot Noir , though you can find $10 Pinot Noir from California . So these are kind of these vineyards are kind of a step up from the value of value price from California . And I noticed when it talked about the grape ages , the grape vine ages it was from five years to 24 years . Now the 24 years isn't a vine in its prime , but five years is on the young side And it's a little bit young for maybe a 25 , $30 Pinot Noir . But just okay , that's fine for a rosé , especially a rosé that I found for $11 . $14 is average on the internet . This is the fourth of July weekend coming up . You're gonna see sales like crazy . This is the time to get it . And so this , the Pino Noir they make , they grow in New Zealand , is the 25 dollar right ? Oh , not the $10 type . I mean it's And .
Speaker 1
3:09
And one thing they talk about is the clones . If you ever look at the tech notes for you under $20 USA Pino Noir They almost never mentioned clones . But when you get into the expensive ones , clones are extremely important . Certain cloned riddles match up well with others and there's certain classic . You know this clone with that and you know this clone with this and And When you get the grape selection like that into the weeds It's pretty good stuff . And these they don't mention the clones they use . But they did mention they went after the right clones , which is Why they . You know the , the Pino Noir from New Zealand was that extra level up wine that clones are important with . So they're using like premium grapes .
Speaker 1
4:00
What else was there ? They de stem the grapes and then crushed them whole clusters , kind of like the fad now they've been doing in Europe they started doing it in California whole clusters that they crush or press everything . You know that , even the twigs and the stems and the grapes supposed to add to the flavor and what have you ? This one doesn't have it . I think it's just a matter what the winemaker wants to do . What else do I have here ?
Speaker 1
4:32
They aged on leaves , but they didn't steer the leaves . On leaves , when they leave the dead yeast and with the wine During the agent , they don't pull it out And they don't stir it when you stir the leaves . That's about to knowledge in French means stick , and when you stir it the wine can take a on a creamy texture , and they didn't stir this at all . So there's no creaminess . And they didn't do malalactic fermentation . Malalactic fermentation changes the natural tart acid and grapes into a rounded Lactose , lactic , more milky type of acid . They didn't do that And that's one thing that happens almost always .
Speaker 1
5:15
It's rare to find a red grape , a red one , it doesn't . It happens a lot in Chardonnay and Chardon Blanc And it's up to the winemaker . In Rosé It's depending on what they want And this is what they wanted And this is a Rosé . That's not all that pink . It's more amber , orange and pink , though in the glass it pinks up enough . Let me take a sip and we'll talk about it , because I liked it for $11 .
Speaker 1
5:43
This thing rocks . It's both subtle and full of flavor , i mean , which is kind of like yeah , a nice trick if you can pull it off , and they pulled it off . It's smooth . There is a little bit of interesting spice . On the edge of it . There's cherries and lemons and apple . What else is there ? There's maybe some guava , some tropical fruit , stone fruit , tart stone fruit . It's got good length . It's got a nice acidity . It's not that lip smack in the city that makes you want to take another sip , but it's the acidity that allows the flavors to have some nice structure to hold them up and keep them firm .
Speaker 1
6:37
Yeah , this is the Oyster Bay Pinot Noir of Rozea Pinot Noir 2022 . It's another thing . It's a young wine . Whenever you're buying a young wine , always get the most recent year of release , because that's what's at its best . They don't make these wines to be aged And sometimes stores . If they have some leftover , we'll put the older ones up front . If it's a 2021 , it's probably not the worst thing in the world , but sometimes , and maybe it is , depending on how it's stored . But 22 for sure is going to be good . So that's it for me . Domain Day from cheapwinefightercom . Oyster Bay Rozea 2022 . Liked it , a great summer sipper . And that's it for me . Keep it cheap , stay cool And stay safe . Adios , bye-bye .